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		<title>StackOverflow and the power of WISC</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[TweetTweet I’ve been a fan of Joel Spolsky’s for a while. Even today, I tell potential Microsoft recruits stories from the article Spolsky wrote back in 2000 about his time at Microsoft (which was actually what convinced me to interview at Microsoft when I was still in school, and then join Microsoft years later): At [...]]]></description>
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<p>I’ve been a fan of <a href="http://www.joelonsoftware.com/">Joel Spolsky</a>’s for a while. Even today, I tell potential Microsoft recruits stories from the article <a href="http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/TwoStories.html">Spolsky wrote back in 2000</a> about his time at Microsoft (which was actually what convinced me to interview at Microsoft when I was still in school, and then join Microsoft years later):</p>
<blockquote><p>At Microsoft, if you&#8217;re the Program Manager working on the Excel macro strategy, even if you&#8217;ve been at the company for less than six months, it doesn&#8217;t matter – you are the GOD of the Excel macro strategy, and nobody, not even employee number 6, is allowed to get in your way. Period.</p>
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<p>I’ve also previously confessed my <a href="http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bromance"><em>bro-mance</em></a> for <a href="http://www.codinghorror.com">Jeff Atwood</a>. Smart, witty, great writer &#8211; love the guy. Anyhow, I digress… </p>
<p>It is no surprise to anyone that <a href="http://www.stackoverflow.com">StackOverflow</a> is a roaring success due to the combined efforts of Jeff and Joel. As many of you may know, <strong>StackOverflow</strong> is built using the <strong>WISC</strong> (Windows, IIS, SQL Server, C#) stack and StackOverflow is also a <a href="http://www.microsoftstartupzone.com/BizSpark/Pages/At_a_Glance.aspx"><strong>BizSpark</strong> startup</a>. It’s always comforting when someone praises your products, especially when it’s unsolicited. So when my good friend, <a href="http://greg-dean.com/">Greg</a>, sent me a link to this video of Spolsky speaking at Google about StackOverflow, I was really intrigued. In the video, Joel talks about StackOverflow and it got really interesting starting at <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWHfY_lvKIQ#t=24m56s">around 24:56 in to the video</a> (<em>(I did my best to transcribe what Joel was saying)</em>:</p>
<blockquote><p>“We were really obsessed about performance – we knew that getting fast answers and the site being “snippy” and “snappy” and quick and stuff like that was important. So here’s the technology stack that we actually used – [we] built on the Microsoft stack. The performance, I know you guys don’t use it that much here, but <strong>the performance of C#, which is a compiled language is just ridiculously good</strong>. This entire site is serving <strong>16million pages a month</strong> and we’re doing it off of <strong>2 servers</strong>, <strong>which are almost completely unloaded</strong>. So we’ve got a <strong>ton of headroom</strong> on those 2 servers – one server is a webserver, the other server is running Microsoft SQL Server 2008 and they’re both 8 core Xeons. But, there were a lot of oppositions that went in there but no matter what people say this is a pretty good stack. And one of the things that I’ve always been concerned about is if you start building a technology like this using the Microsoft stack you are going to pay for a Windows Server license, lots of SQL Server licenses, which are 5000 bucks for every box that you put out. And the idea that you could possibly use a larger number of cheaper computers and use Open Source products which are free certainly occurred to us. On the other hand <strong>when I compare our performance to similar sites that are running on the open source stack, we are using about 1/10th of the hardware that they are</strong>, unfortunately, and maybe that’s because they are not good programmers.&#160; But just in terms of the types of queries we are doing and stuff, <strong>the Microsoft stack is actually, appears to be paying for itself</strong> &#8211; in terms of reduced hardware.”<a href="http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2009/05/joel-talks-about-stack-overflow-at-google/"><img style="border-right-width: 0px; display: block; float: none; border-top-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; margin-left: auto; border-left-width: 0px; margin-right: auto" title="StackOverflow" border="0" alt="StackOverflow" src="http://www.artificialignorance.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/images/6ad34596c9b7_8546/StackOverflow.jpg" width="503" height="390" /></a></p>
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<p>Since StackOverflow is in the BizSpark program, they are entitled to all kinds of software, including <strong>Windows Server 2008</strong> and <strong>SQL Server 2008</strong> (specifically what Joel calls out the costs for) to use in production <strong>for pretty much no cost</strong> (<em>companies pay $100 when they exit the program</em>) <strong>for 3 years</strong>. Can you beat phenomenal performance, reduced CPU usage and great productivity which now comes at no cost up-front?</p>
<p>“<strong>ai</strong>”</p>
<p><em>[Update: Corrected a broken link]</em></p>
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